Sunday 9 October 2016

Argument busted!




Therefore, this is what the LORD Almighty says concerning the prophets: "I will make them eat bitter food and drink poisoned water, because from the prophets of Jerusalem ungodliness has spread throughout the land. (Jeremiah 23:15)


----------


Notice from the above statement, which Christians love using only backfires on them. As we can read Yahweh is speaking of false prophets during the time of Jeremiah and how he will punish them. Notice Yahweh saying, “PROPHETS OF JERUSALEM”. From this we can conclude, those false Prophets were Jews and not Arabs. The question is, was Jesus a prophet from around the geographical area of Jerusalem?



33"Nevertheless I must journey on today and tomorrow and the next day; for it cannot be that a prophet would perish outside of Jerusalem. 34"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, just as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not have it! (Luke 13:33-34)

We also know his last supper would consist of BITTER FOOD i.e. herbs, as found in Exodus 12:3-4 - Numbers 9:10-13

Was Jesus poison? The gospels portray that Jesus immediately died after drinking the vinegar:

Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a sponge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth. When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. (John 19:29-30)

This proves Jesus was poisoned, the vinegar is supposed to have stimulating effects, yet it killed Jesus instantly!


-------------------------------




Jeremiah 9:5 is another busted argument made by Christians, had they read the context they would have never used it



13The LORD said, "Because they have forsaken My law which I set before them, and have not obeyed My voice nor walked according to it, 14but have walked after the stubbornness of their heart and after the Baals, as their fathers taught them,"
(Jeremiah 9:13-14)


Read from context people of Jeremiah have forsaken the law and took false gods so Yahweh in verse 15 threaten to punish them via bitter food and poison 




Therefore this is what the LORD Almighty, the God of Israel, says: "See, I will make this people eat bitter food and drink poisoned water. (Jeremiah 9:15)


------------------------------


Just for the records aorta" is al-wateen, while the word used in the hadith literature is al-abhar. 

The famous linguist Al-Fayrooz'abaadi in his famous dictionary al-Qaamoos Al-Muheet said:

Al-Abhar: the back and the vein in it and the vein in the neck, and akhal (vein running across the middle of the arm) and kidney. Al-Wateen: the vein in the heart, which if were cut off the person would die. (as reported by Burhaanudeen al-Biqai in his Nadhm ad-Durar fi Tanaasub al-Ayaat wal-Suwar)

Sorry your entire argument has been destroyed. 


---------------------------


Exodus 15:25 can Christians explain how Moses turn bitter water sweet by throwing a wooden piece in it?

According to  Rabbi Eliezer Hamodai said: This piece of wood was an olive branch, for there is nothing as bitter as an olive branch. Rabbi Yehoshua ben Korchah said: This was a blade of oleander [a poisonous shrub].


Interesting the piece of wood was an olive branch. The question is, how did 2.6 million Israelites drink from a small river? What's even more interesting is, River Marah is situated in Saudi Arabia, thus Moses took the Israelites to Saudi Arabia

The Explanation of the Statement: "Verily, You are on an Exalted Character

The Explanation of the Statement: "Verily, You are on an Exalted Character.''  

Concerning Allah's statement,

﴿وَإِنَّكَ لَعَلَى خُلُقٍ عَظِيمٍ ﴾

(And verily, you are on an exalted (standard of) character.) Al-`Awfi reported from Ibn `Abbas, "Verily, you are on a great religion, and it is Islam.'' Likewise said Mujahid, Abu Malik, As-Suddi and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas. Ad-Dahhak and Ibn Zayd also said this. Sa`id bin Abi `Arubah reported from Qatadah that he said concerning Allah's statement,

﴿وَإِنَّكَ لَعَلَى خُلُقٍ عَظِيمٍ ﴾

(And verily, you are on an exalted (standard of) character.) "It has been mentioned to us that Sa`d bin Hisham asked `A'ishah about the character of the Messenger of Allah , so she replied: `Have you not read the Qur'an' Sa`d said: `Of course.' Then she said: `Verily, the character of the Messenger of Allah was the Qur'an.''' `Abdur-Razzaq recorded similar to this and Imam Muslim recorded it in his Sahih on the authority of Qatadah in its full length. This means that he would act according to the commands and the prohibition in the Qur'an. His nature and character were patterned according to the Qur'an, and he abandoned his natural disposition (i.e., the carnal nature). So whatever the Qur'an commanded, he did it, and whatever it forbade, he avoided it. Along with this, Allah gave him the exalted character, which included the qualities of modesty, kindness, bravery, pardoning, gentleness and every other good characteristic. This is like that which has been confirmed in the Two Sahihs that Anas said, "I served the Messenger of Allah for ten years, and he never said a word of displeasure to me (Uff), nor did he ever say to me concerning something I had done: `Why did you do that' And he never said to me concerning something I had not done: `Why didn't you do this' He had the best character, and I never touched any silk or anything else that was softer than the palm of the Messenger of Allah . And I never smelled any musk or perfume that had a better fragrance than the sweat of the Messenger of Allah.'' Imam Al-Bukhari recorded that Al-Bara' said, "The Messenger of Allah had the most handsome face of all the people, and he had the best behavior of all of the people. And he was not tall, nor was he short.'' The Hadiths concerning this matter are numerous. Abu `Isa At-Tirmidhi has a complete book on this subject called Kitab Ash-Shama'il. Imam Ahmad recorded that `A'ishah said, "The Messenger of Allah never struck a servant of his with his hand, nor did he ever hit a woman. He never hit anything with his hand, except for when he was fighting Jihad in the cause of Allah. And he was never given the option between two things except that the most beloved of the two to him was the easiest of them, as long as it did not involve sin. If it did involve sin, then he stayed farther away from sin than any of the people. He would not avenge himself concerning anything that was done to him, except if the limits of Allah were transgressed. Then, in that case he would avenge for the sake of Allah.'' Imam Ahmad also recorded from Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allah said,

«إِنَّمَا بُعِثْتُ لِأُتَمِّمَ صَالِحَ الْأَخْلَاق»

(I have only been sent to perfect righteous behavior.) Ahmad was alone in recording this Hadith. In reference to Allah's statement,

﴿فَسَتُبْصِرُ وَيُبْصِرُونَ - بِأَيِّكُمُ الْمَفْتُونُ ﴾

(You will see, and they will see, which of you is afflicted with madness.) then it means, `you will know, O Muhammad -- and those who oppose you and reject you, will know -- who is insane and misguided among you.' This is like Allah's statement,

﴿سَيَعْلَمُونَ غَداً مَّنِ الْكَذَّابُ الاٌّشِرُ ﴾

(Tomorrow they will come to know who is the liar, the insolent one!) (54:26) Allah also says,

﴿وَإِنَّآ أَوْ إِيَّاكُمْ لَعَلَى هُدًى أَوْ فِى ضَلَـلٍ مُّبِينٍ﴾

(And verily (either) we or you are rightly guided or in plain error.) (34:24) Ibn Jurayj reported from Ibn `Abbas, it means "You will know and they will know on the Day of Judgement.'' Al-`Awfi reported from Ibn `Abbas;

﴿بِأَيِّكُمُ الْمَفْتُونُ ﴾

(Which of you is Maftun (afflicted with madness) means which of you is crazy. This was also said by Mujahid and others as well. The literal meaning of Maftun is one who has been charmed or lured away from the truth and has strayed from it. Thus, the entire statement means, `so you will know and they will know,' or `you will be informed and they will be informed, as to which of you is afflicted with madness.' And Allah knows best. Then Allah says,

﴿إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَن ضَلَّ عَن سَبِيلِهِ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ ﴾

(Verily, your Lord is the best Knower of him who has gone astray from His path, and He is the best Knower of those who are guided.) meaning, `He knows which of the two groups are truly guided among you, and He knows the party that is astray from the truth.'

﴿فَلاَ تُطِعِ الْمُكَذِّبِينَ - وَدُّواْ لَوْ تُدْهِنُ فَيُدْهِنُونَ - وَلاَ تُطِعْ كُلَّ حَلاَّفٍ مَّهِينٍ - هَمَّازٍ مَّشَّآءِ بِنَمِيمٍ - مَّنَّاعٍ لِّلْخَيْرِ مُعْتَدٍ أَثِيمٍ - عُتُلٍّ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ زَنِيمٍ - أَن كَانَ ذَا مَالٍ وَبَنِينَ - إِذَا تُتْلَى عَلَيْهِ ءَايَـتُنَا قَالَ أَسَـطِيرُ الاٌّوَّلِينَ - سَنَسِمُهُ عَلَى الْخُرْطُومِ ﴾

(8. So, do not obey the deniers.) (9. They wish that you should compromise with them, so they (too) would compromise with you.) (10. And do not obey every Hallaf Mahin.) (11. A Hammaz, going about with Namim,) (12. Hinderer of the good, transgressor, sinful,) (13. `Utul, and moreover Zanim.) (14. (He was so) because he had wealth and children.) (15. When Our Ayat are recited to him, he says: "Tales of the men of old!'') (16. We shall brand him on the snout (nose)!)


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

“Indeed in the Messenger of Allah you have an excellent example to follow for whoever hopes in Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.”Qur’an 33:21 

Muslims believe that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the final Prophet in a long chain of Prophets sent to call the people to the obedience and worship of God alone (‘Allah’ in Arabic). Some of these Prophets include Adam, Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon and Jesus (peace be upon them all). 

Just as Moses (peace be upon him) was sent with the Torah (the original uncorrupted revelation sent to Moses) and Jesus (peace be upon him) with the Gospel (the original, uncorrupted revelation - not the present-day versions), Muslims believe that Muhammad (peace be upon him) was sent with the Qur’an to demonstrate how its teachings should be applied. 

The Prophet’s (peace be upon him) wife, ‘A’isha, was once asked to describe the Prophet (peace be upon him), and she replied that he was ‘the Qur’an walking’, meaning he meticulously implemented the noble teachings of the Qur’an into his daily life. We will demonstrate how he translated these noble teachings into noble actions. 

Mission of Mercy

“And We (God) have not sent you (Muhammad) except as a mercy for mankind.”Qur’an 21:107 

As well as calling people to pray, fast and give charity, the Prophet (peace be upon him) taught that one’s faith in God should also affect one’s treatment of others. He said: “The best of you are they who have the best character.” 

Many sayings of the Prophet (peace be upon him) emphasise the relationship between belief and action, for example: “Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, should not hurt his neighbour, and whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, should serve his guest generously, and whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, should speak what is good or keep quiet.” 

The final Messenger (Peace be upon him) taught humans to show mercy and to respect each other: “He who does not show mercy to others, will not be shown mercy.” 

In another narration, some people requested the Prophet (peace be upon him) to invoke God to punish the disbelievers but he replied: “I have not been sent as one to curse but as a mercy.” 

Forgiveness

“Let them forgive and overlook: do you not wish that Allah should forgive you? For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”Qur’an 24:22) The Prophet (peace be upon him) was the most forgiving of all people and the kindest. If someone abused him, he would forgive him, and the harsher a person was, the more patient he would become. He was extremely lenient and forgiving, especially when he had the upper hand and the power to retaliate. 

Muhammad (peace be upon him) was all for forgiveness and no amount of crime or aggression against him was too great to be forgiven by him. He was the best example of forgiveness and kindness, as mentioned in the following verse of the Qur'an: "Keep to forgiveness (O Muhammad), and enjoin kindness, and turn away from the ignorant." (Al-Qur'an 7:199)


Equality

“Indeed the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you.”Qur’an 49:13 In the following sayings of the Prophet (peace be upon him), he taught that all humans are equal in the sight of God: 

“All humanity is from Adam and Adam is from clay. There is no superiority for an Arab over a non-Arab, nor for a black over a white; except through piety.” 

“God does not judge you according to your appearance and your wealth, but He looks at your hearts and looks into your deeds.” 

It is related that once a companion of the Prophet (peace be upon him) called another companion in an offensive way, “Son of a black woman!” The Prophet (peace be upon him), became angry and replied, “Do you condemn him because of the blackness of his mother? You still have within you traces of ignorance from the pre-Islamic period.” 

Tolerance

“Good deeds and evil deeds are not equal. Repel evil with what is best, then he with whom you had enmity shall become as a loyal friend.”Qur’an 41:34“You should not do evil to those who do evil to you, but you should deal with them with forgiveness and kindness.” This is how the final Messenger of God (peace be upon him) reacted to personal attacks and abuse. 

Islamic sources include a number of instances where the Prophet (peace be upon him) had the opportunity to take revenge upon those who wronged him, but refrained from doing so. 

He taught man to exercise patience in the face of adversity: “The strong is not the one who overcomes people by his strength, but the strong is the one who controls himself while in anger.” 

Practising patience and tolerance does not mean that a Muslim should be a passivist and not defend himself in case of attack. Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) stated that, “Do not wish to meet the enemy, but when you meet (face) the enemy, be patient (i.e. stand firm when facing the enemy).” 

Gentleness

“By the grace of Allah, you are gentle towards the people; if you had been harsh and hard-hearted, they would have dispersed from around you.”Qur’an 3:159 A companion who served Muhammad (peace be upon him) for ten years said that Muhammad (peace be upon him) was always gentle in his dealings with him. “When I did something, he never questioned my manner of doing it; and when I did not do something, he never questioned my failure to do it. He was the friendliest of all men.” 

On one occasion, the wife of the Prophet (peace be upon him) reacted angrily after being insulted by a person. 

The Prophet (peace be upon him) advised her: “Be gentle and calm, O ‘Aisha, as Allah likes gentleness in all affairs.” 

He also said: “Show gentleness! For if gentleness is found in something, it beautifies it, and when it is taken out from anything, it makes it deficient.” 

Humbleness

“And the servants of The Most Gracious (God) are those who walk on the earth in humbleness, and when the ignorant address them, they say: ‘Peace.’ ”Qur’an 25:63 The Prophet (peace be upon him) used to prevent people from standing up for him out of respect. He used to sit wherever there was a place available in an assembly and never sought a prominent or elevated place. He never wore anything to distinguish himself from his companions or appear in higher rank than them. He used to mix with the poor and the needy; he used to sit with the elderly and support the widows. People who did not know him could not tell him apart from the rest of the crowd. 

Addressing his companions, he said: “Allah has revealed to me, that you must be humble. No one should boast over one another, and no one should oppress another.” 

Such was his humbleness that he was fearful of being worshipped, a privilege only befitting God: 

“Do not exceed bounds in praising me as the Christians do in praising Jesus, Son of Mary. I am only the Lord’s servant; then call me the Servant of Allah and His Messenger.” 

The Ideal Husband

“And live with them (your spouses) in kindness.”Qur’an 4:19 The Prophet’s beloved wife, Aa’isha, said of her noble husband: “He always helped with the housework and would at times mend his clothes, repair his shoes and sweep the floor. He would milk, protect and feed his animals and do household chores.” 

Not only was he a devoted husband, he also encouraged his companions to follow his example: “The most perfect of the believers in faith are the best of them in morals. And the best among them are those who are best to their wives.” 

The Ideal Example

“Indeed you (O Muhammad) are on an exalted standard of character.”Qur’an 68:4 What has preceded is only a glimpse of how Muhammad (peace be upon him) lived his life. The examples of kindness and mercy mentioned may come as a surprise to some people given the portrayal of Islam in the media and its constant misrepresentation. 

It is important when trying to understand Islam that one goes directly to its sources: The Qur’an, and the sayings and actions of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), and that anyone does not judge Islam based on the errant actions of a few Muslims. 



Comments from Non-Muslims

Mahatma K Gandhi, a major political and spiritual leader of the Indian independence movement, remarked: “It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle.” 

George Bernard Shaw, the British playwright, declared: 

“The world is in dire need of a man with the mind of Muhammad; religious people in the Middle Ages, due to their ignorance and prejudice, had pictured him in a very dark way as they used to consider him the enemy of Christianity. But after looking into the story of this man I found it to be an amazing and a miraculous one, and I came to the conclusion that he was never an enemy of Christianity, and must be called instead the saviour of humanity. In my opinion, if he was to be given control over the world today, he would solve our problems and secure the peace and happiness which the world is longing for.” - See more at: http://www.iisna.com/articles/pamphlets/prophet-muhammad-peace-be-upon-him/#sthash.eVfyYSu9.dpuf

Is being black a bad thing bible says yes !



For the hurt of the daughter of my people am I hurt; I am black; astonishment hath taken hold on me. (
Jeremiah 8:21)

What is Jeremiah trying to say here that he is black?? Let's find out from biblical Commentaries :


-------------



Elliott's commentary for English readers :

(21) For the hurt . . .—Now the prophet again speaks in his own person. He is crushed in that crushing of his people. His face is darkened, as one that mourns. (Comp. Psalm 38:6Joshua 5:11.)

--------------


For the hurt ... hurt - literally, "Because of the breaking ... broken." These are the words of the prophet, whose heart is crushed by the cry of his countrymen.
I am black - Or, I go mourning

---------------


21. black—sad in visage with grief (Joe 2:6).


-----------------


The prophet here shows how deeply he is affected with the people’s misery, he deeply sympathized with them. 

The hurt; it signifies breach, I am broken in my spirit; and so it answers to the breach that is made upon the people. 

I am black; I am as those that are clad in deep mourning, Psalm 38:6 Jeremiah 14:2

------------------




I am broken; in heart and spirit: 
I am black; with grief and sorrow. The Targum is, 
"my face is covered with blackness, black

------------------------



21the hurt] lit. the breach, and so the verb that follows.


black] mg. mourning (as to garb).


---------------------------




Verse 21. - For the hurt, etc.; literally, because of the breaking, etc., I am broken; comp. Jeremiah 23:9, and the phrase "broken in heart" (Isaiah 61:1, etc.). The prophet feels crushed by the sense of the utter ruin of his people. I am black; rather, I go inmourning (so Psalm 38:6Psalm 42:9). The root means rather "foulness" or "squalor" than "blackness" (comp. Job 6:16, where "blackish," an epithet of streams, should rather be "turbid").

----------------------------

Rashis commentary 

I mourn: lit. I am darkened, an expression of blackness and darkness.

----------------------------------------------------------------

There we have it, the idea of having a black face means mourning or hurt , sad grief how does a black person take this statement his colour being the sign of negative hope!!! There's more from the jewish oral law Talmud


Black skin a curse from the Talmud
So where did this racist myth come from?  The idea that black skin is a curse comes from the Jewish Talmud.  In the Talmudic book of Sanhedrin 108a, we learn that there were three who had sex while on the ark; a dog, a raven and Noah’s son Ham.  All three were punished, and Ham’s punishment was in his skin, it is said he was “smitten in his skin”. The footnote claims that this curse produced black skinned “negros”.
Our Rabbis taught: Three copulated in the ark, and they were all punished — the dog, the raven, and Ham. The dog was doomed to be tied, the raven expectorates [his seed into his mate's mouth]. and Ham was smitten in his skin. [34] Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 108a
Footnote 34:  I.e., from him descended Cush (the negro) who is black-skinned.
3. Negros as “creatures”
“Negros” are lumped in with diseased persons and called “creatures’ in the Talmudic book of Berakoth 58b

R. Joshua b. Levi said: On seeing pock-marked persons one says: Blessed be He who makes strange creatures. An objection was raised: If one sees a negro, a very red or very white person, a hunchback, a dwarf or a dropsical person, he says: Blessed be He who makes strange creatures. – Babylonian Talmud, Berakoth 58b

Jesus using the Word Muslim in the Bible


Very weak choice made by my Christian friend


My Christian friend ade posted on Facebook something very interesting which I thought I can share with you guys he wrote as follows below 


------------------

The choice 

This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live (Deuteronomy 30:19)


Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)


Any questions ??

Shalom 

--------------------


Yes mr Ade I do have a question! What does the verse from Deuteronomy really mean? I mean have you ever read what classical commentators have said? Let's read what the great commentator of the Tanach Rashis have to say about the verse from Deuteronomy 30:19


classical scholar Rashis commentary

you shall choose life: [God says: “Even though you have free choice, nevertheless,] I instruct you to choose the portion of life.” It is like a man who says to his son, “Choose for yourself a fine portion of my estate,” and then directs him to the best portion, saying to him, “This [is the portion which] you should choose for yourself!” And regarding this, the verse says,“The Lord is my allotted portion and my cup; You guide my destiny” (Ps. 16:5). [The last clause, אַתָּה תּוֹמִיךְ גּוֹרָלִי, literally means “You laid upon my lot.” That is to say:] “You laid my hand upon the good lot, saying, ‘Take this for yourself!’”


Seems like me ades understanding of Deuteronomy doesn't come close to Rashis commentary? But If ade really believes that Deuteronomy is talking about Life which Jesus has come as then we have a bigger problem since the very same bible tells us SATAN HAS POWER TO TAKE LIFE!



The LORD said to Satan, "Very well, then, he is in your hands; but you must spare his LIFE ."(Job 2:6)

Notice how Satan has full control of over job to the point he can take his LIFE yet Yahweh requests Satan to spare his LIFE... Now if mr Ade says Jesus was talking metaphorical not literal then we can say he really isn't LIFE, but if me Ade believes Jesus was literally life then he has to accept Satan can take this Life when he please!


TIME YOU TOOK A CHOICE MR ADE 

Why is "WE" used for Allah in Quran By Nouman Ali Khan

  “We” an Arabic plural of respect One of the foremost differences between Christianity and Islam is the concept of the “trinity.” Most Chri...