Tuesday 11 October 2016

Did Jesus ever call himself "THE SON OF GOD?"





Korede a Nigerian Christian apologist follower of David wood  failed the challenge. 




Korede our Nigerian prince has  made a fool of himself taking up the challenge. The very bible that he loves more then anything has backfired  him. I asked our Christian friends where did Jesus ever call himself "the Son of God" anywhere in the bible. And behold! Korede the Nigerian prince thought he will be the redeemer who would save Christians from humiliation by showing us a few verses from the bible where Jesus called himself "the Son of God".  First Let us read Korede's response to the question.
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John 9:35

Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?

John 10:36

Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

John 11:4

When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby.

John 11:27

She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.

John 19:7

The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.

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Wait! by looking at the given verses Korede is correct. The New Testament does have Jesus calling himself  the "Son of God". Looks can be deceiving, do not get fooled by what you read in the English translation as we will show you how easily translations change what the original says. Interestingly, the original Koine Greek does not say "the Son of God", but rather "a Son of God" There is no definite article in any of the verses quoted by Korede.

Let's break it down 


For example Many english translations translate John 10 verse 36 which Korede used have jesus refer to himself as THE Son of God,” while in the greek text the definite article "the, i.e ho/thon" is absent , the greek has jesus calling himself as “A Son of God”, and not as “THE Son of God”Refer to the ASV, ERV, NIV etc. which have excluded the word "the" or either its in brackets as in ASV. Now what can the translator do, to translate it correctly while not having jesus being called as "a" son?? they translate it as "i am god's son". Refer to NIV, ASV, DBY etc and YNG traslates it as “Son of God I am?”. Thus its Not The son of god/ but a son of god 

One of the quotes Korede used is from John 9:35  which reads  "the son of man" and not "son of God". The NIV which goes back to the earliest manuscriptes omits "son of God" thus,  Korede is only fooling himself with the KJV 


John 19:7 the Greek word Uion is used :
υἱὸνuion5207a son


John 10:36 the Greek word Uios is used :
υἱὸςuios5207a son

John 11:4 the Greek word Uios is used :
υἱὸςuios5207a son

John 11:27 the Greek work Uios is used:
υἱὸςuios5207a son


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Now, the only way  Korede can snake his way out is, by  proving the Koine Greek is wrong. Korede is basing his whole argument by depending on the KJV which by consensus does not go back to the earliest manuscripts, not to forget has many defects. One must also clarify that "A SON OF GOD" is not the same as "THE SON OF GOD"

We know from the bible Jews were also the sons of God (Psalm 82:6), puttin them equally on the same level as Jesus and his son ship with God. Jews never consider themselves as the literal sons of God rather the Hebrew phrase "son of God" would means a godly, pious person, a man of God.

Now lets take a look at the koine Greek word Huios. 

Strongs concordance 5207

huios: a son

Original Word: υἱός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: huios
Phonetic Spelling: (hwee-os')
Short Definition: a son, descendent
Definition: a son, descendent.


Notice the definite article "the" is not used.

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There is another issue that need burying. David wood, koredes mentor answered this very question by quoting a passage from Luke.

"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him." (Luke 10:22)

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These words are repeated verbatim in Matthew 11:27, the reason being that Luke and Matthew both lifted this passage out of Q. But these words emanate from the third layer of Q, the layer added by Christians around 70 C.E ( B.L. Mack, the lost Gospel: The Book of Q & Christian Origins pp. 89, 172.) neither of the two earliest layers including the original Q as kept by the very first followers of Jesus, containing anything about of the deity of Jesus Christ 

As for those Christian linguist unfortunately, Granville Sharp Rule is not applicable on of the above cites verses. In fact for the record Granville Sharp Rule has been under scrutiny and disputed by many Koine Greek scholars. Using Granville Sharp will not help you in this case.


There you go two birds with one stone. Korede needs to drown himself from shame UNLESS HE CAN SHOW US WHERE JESUS CALLED HIMSELF "THE SON OF GOD".

SHAME! 



Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.
(Matthew 5:9)


For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
(Roman 8:14)


You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus
(Galatians 3:26)

Case closed

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