Friday 23 September 2016

Yahweh or Jesus who gets to keep Them?


Yahweh or Jesus who gets to keep them?!!  

Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
(Numbers 31:17-18)

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Above commandment given by Yahweh to Moses is to kill all men's and womans including males boys but to SAVE ALL VIRGIN GIRLS!! After the whole episode of massacre Yahweh divides the war booty (spoils) 

                                        Dividing the Spoils


The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 72,000 cattle, 61,000 donkeys and 32,000 girls who had never slept with a man.
(Numbers 31:35)



Below Yahweh not only splits the war booty but demands to keep 32 Virgin girls for himself?


The half share of those who fought in the battle was:

337,500 sheep, 37 of which the tribute for the Lord was 675;
38 36,000 cattle, of which the tribute for the Lord was 72;
39 30,500 donkeys, of which the tribute for the Lord was 61;

40 16,000 people, of whom the tribute for the Lord was 32.
(Numbers 31:40)

32 VIRGIN GIRLS WERE KEPT FOR YAHWEH THE GOD OF THE BIBLE
NOW IF CHRISTIANS BELIEVE THIS GOD IS JESUS SHALL WE CONCLUDE JESUS ASKED FOR 32 VIRGIN GIRLS??




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Children as Concubines, Babies as Wives



The ancient Hebrews were permitted to use children as concubines. Moses established the precedent. In the passage below, the Hebrews have just massacred the Midianite men. They return home with booty, and the Midianite women and children. Moses directs them to slaughter the captive women and children with this exception: virgin girl children are to be kept as concubines for the Hebrews.

12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.

14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.

15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?

16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
— Numbers 31:12-18 (KJV)

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In the following, the Talmud Sages reason that, since Phinehas was among the Hebrews who were permitted a child concubine and Phinehas was a priest, Numbers 31:17-18 is Divine sanction for the marriage of priests with girls under the age of three — babies. The rabbis describe the babies as proselytes. The American Heritage Dictionary defines proselyte as "a Gentile converted to Judaism." In the following passage, a bondman is a male slave, and a bondwoman a female slave.

GEMARA. … It was taught: R. Simeon b. Yohai stated: A proselyte who is under the age of three years and one day is permitted to marry a priest, (2) for it is said, But all the women children that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves, (3) and Phinehas (4) surely was with them. And the Rabbis? (5) — [These were kept alive] as bondmen and bondwomen. (6) If so, (7)  a proselyte whose age is three years and one day (8) should also be permitted! — [The prohibition is to be explained] in accordance with R. Huna. For R. Huna pointed out a contradiction: It is written, Kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him, (9) but if she hath not known, save her alive; from this it may be inferred that children are to be kept alive whether they have known or have not known [a man]; and, on the other hand, it is also written, But all the women children, that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves, (3) but do not spare them if they have known. Consequently (10) it must be said that Scripture speaks of one who is fit (11) for cohabitation. (12)
— Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Yebamoth 60b
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 402

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This is a special definition of cohabitation. The translator, Rev. Dr. Israel W. Slotki, amplifies the text with footnotes:

2 She is not regarded as a harlot.

3 Num. XXXI, 18.

4 Who was a priest.

5 How could they, contrary to the opinion of R. Simeon b. Yohai, which has Scriptural support, forbid the marriage of the young proselyte?

6 Not for matrimony.

7 That, according to R. Simeon, Num. XXXI, 18 refers to matrimony.

8 So long as she has 'not known man'.

9 Num. XXXI, 17.
10 To reconcile the contradiction.

11 I.e., one who had attained the age of three years and one day.

12 Not one who had actually experienced it.
— Rev. Dr. Slotki

The doctrine that Jewish men may have sexual intercourse with non-Jewish children ("proselytes") under the age of three is expanded in the following passage; "Rabbi" is Judah the Prince.

GEMARA. … R. Jacob b. Idi stated in the name of R. Joshua b. Levi: The halachah is in agreement with R. Simeon b. Yohai. (13) Said R. Zera to R. Jacob b. Idi: Did you hear this (13) explicitly or did you learn it by a deduction? What [could be the] deduction? — As R. Joshua b. Levi related: There was a certain town in the Land of Israel the legitimacy of whose inhabitants was disputed, and Rabbi sent R. Romanos who conducted an enquiry and found in it the daughter of a proselyte who was under the age of three years and one day, (14) and Rabbi declared her eligible to live with a priest. (15)
— Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Yebamoth 60b
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 403
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The translator, Rev. Dr. Israel W. Slotki, amplifies the text with footnotes:


13 That a proselyte under the age of three years and one day may be married by a priest.

14 And was married to a priest.

15 I.e., permitted her to continue to live with her husband.
— Rev. Dr. Slotki

Not every Sage agreed with this practice. The Talmud records the words of one Sage who objected to one case, though it does not record the specifics of his objection.

GEMARA. … A certain priest married a proselyte who was under the age of three years and one day. Said R. Nahman b. Isaac to him: What [do you mean by] this? (12) — The other replied: Because R. Jacob b. Idi stated in the name of R. Joshua b. Levi that the halachah is in agreement with R. Simeon b. Yohai. (13) 'Go', the first said, 'and arrange for her release, or else I will pull R. Jacob b. Idi out of your ear'. (14)
— Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Yebamoth 60b
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 404

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The translator, Rev. Dr. Israel W. Slotki, amplifies the text with footnotes:

12 I.e., on what authority did you contract the marriage.

13 V. supra p. 403. n. 13.

14 He would place him under the ban and thus compel him to carry out his decision which is contrary to that of R. Jacob b. Idi.

Talmud  Explains Infant Sex Slavery Of Moses/Joshua

There are two (perhaps more) instances in the Torah where Jews take infants as concubines after killing their families.  The first is when Moses murders all the Midianites, but instructes his men to take the young  virgins for themselves (Numbers 31: 7-18), the second is when Joshua’s men need wives so they raided a nearby village, kill all the adults, but take the young  virgins for themselves… they then set up a second ambush/raid and kidnap young  girls who are dancing at a festival (Judges 21:10-24). In both instances it is specified that the captives are to be virgins, or else they are slain with the rest of their family. The Babylonian Talmud book of Yebamouth 60b provides the method by which the Jews were to detect virginity in their captives; any girl who failed this test was slaughtered. Joshua did not follow the proper procedure because he made the girls sit on a bottle of wine to detect their virginity, but the law stipulates that the girls were to be passed before a “frontplate”, the gold plate which was worn by the High Priest on his forehead;  if the face of the young  girl turned pale it was known that she was a virgin and fit for cohabitation; if her face did not turn pale it was known that she was not a virgin and therefore unfit for cohabitation… because according to the Talmud “dropsy is a manifestation of lewdness.” (Yebamoth 60b).  We also learn in Yebamoth 60b that although the usual age for marriage to girls is three years old (see here), these captive girls could be married to Jewish Priests at an even younger age than this.

Commentary 


[This] refers to her who has slept with a man as well as her who is suitable for intercourse, even when she has not slept with a man... 
But all the young girls who have not known a man by sleeping with him, keep alive for yourselves. From here R. Shimon b. Yohai used to say: a Proselyte girl who became a proselyte in the age of less than three years and one day, is rendered fit to marry into the priesthood." [137]

According to the Tannaïte Rabbis, Moses therefore had ordered the Israelites to kill all women older than three years and a day, because they were "suitable for having sexual relations." [138]



Footnotes:

[137] Kuhn 1959, §157, 652f. My translation. In general, proselytes are not allowed to marry into the priesthood.

[138] Ibid., §157, footnote 86, 653.

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