Saturday 24 September 2016

Which Torah is inspired?


All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness (1 Timothy 3:16)

Interesting verse which tells us all scriptures are God breathed? So Yahweh has a part in what is found in the entire bible... I find out if Yahweh speaks the same for all versions? If not how can we differentiate which is correct?

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Which Torah is Correct??  


How Old was Methuselah when he became the father of Lamech?

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When Methuselah had lived 187 years, he became the father of Lamech.
(Genesis 5:25 Masoretic Torah)


When Methuselah had lived 167 years, he became the father of Lamech.
(Genesis 5:25 Septuagint Torah) 


When Methuselah had lived 67 years, he became the father of Lamech.
(Genesis 5:25 Samaritan Torah)

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How Old was Lamech when he had his son?

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When Lamech had lived 182 years, he had a son.
(Genesis 5:28 Masoretic Torah)


When Lamech had lived 188 years, he had a son.
(Genesis 5:28 Septuagint Torah) 


When Lamech had lived 53 years, he had a son.
(Genesis 5:28 Samaritan Torah)



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Altogether, Lamech lived a total of 777 years, and then he died.
(Genesis 5:31 Masoretic text)



Altogether, Lamech lived a total of 753 years, and then he died.
(Genesis 5:31 Septuagint Torah) 

                              

Altogether, Lamech lived a total of 653 years, and then he died.
(Genesis 5:31 Samaritan text)


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On what day did Yahweh finish his work, 6th or 7th?

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On the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.
(Genesis 2:2 Masoretic  Torah)



‘And God finished on the sixth day his works which he did and rested on the seventh day from all his works which he did.’
(Genesis 2:2 Septuagint Torah) 

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How many came from Jacob?

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And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt already.
(Exodus 1:5 Masoretic Torah)


But Joseph was in Egypt. And all the souls born of Jacob were seventy-five
(Exodus 1:5 Septuagint Torah) 


After this, Joseph sent for his father Jacob and his whole family, seventy-five in all.
(Acts 7:14 KJV)


From the above we read two discrepancies, from two different versions of the Torah and what's more fascinating The New Testament, specifically the books of Acts  agrees with the Septuagint Torah not Masoretic??

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"My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:" (Proverbs 3:11 Septuagint Torah)  


"My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction:" (Proverbs 3:11 Masoretic Torah)


"And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:" (Hebrews 12:5 KJV)


From the above three passages notice how the Septuagint and Masoretic have different wordings? Also the book of Hebrews takes from the Septuagint Torah word for word!! 

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This text talks of a 430-year period between the confirmation of a promise and the giving of the law.

Exodus 12:40

The Masoretic Text—‘Now the sojourn of the children of Israel, which they dwelt in Egypt, was 430 years.’40

The Septuagint—‘Now the sojourn of the children of Israel, which they dwelt in the land of Egypt and in the land of Canaan,41 was 430 years.’

The Samaritan Pentateuch—‘Now the sojourn of the children of Israel and their fathers, which they dwelt in the land of Canaan and in the land of Egypt, was 430 years.’

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Which Torah is Correct?

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And after he became the father of Terah, Nahor lived 119 years...
(Genesis 11:25 Masoretic Torah)


And Nachor lived after he had begotten Tharrha, 125 years..
(Genesis 11:25 Septuagint Torah)


And Nahor lived after he begat Terah 69 years, and begat sons and daughters.
(Genesis 11:25 Samaritan Torah)

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ARE THEY ALL GOD BREATHED??



The Bible is not the "absolute" Word of God. The Bible may have some words of God within its text, this does not make it the "absolute" word of God. Let me give you an example. Suppose an atheist wrote a book on Islam, and in his book he quotes passages from the Quran, one cannot claim his book is the word of God. Yes he has words by God written in his book, however this does not qualify his book to be "the word of God", but rather words taken from the Quran and used for his book. In a similar fashion, if the Bible has words which were said by God and passed down through generations which were written,  does not make that book i.e. the Bible the "absolute" word of God.

When Christians make certain comments, which goes against their own standards really makes you feel sorry for them. take for the example when Christians bring up that, “the Quran speaks highly of the Torah and Gospel and how it was sent down to Moses and Jesus. Why then don’t you accept the Torah and Gospels which we read and preach as the inspired Books which your God is referring to?”

The problem isn’t the question rather the problem is how the questioner assumes the Quran speaks of the same Torah and Gospel which he currently reads and claims it’s the inspired word of God. Rather then going into a long discussion one only needs to follow up the question and ask him “do you believe in the Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Mary, Gospel of Judas, Gospel of Philip, Gospel of Marcion, Gospel of Basilides?”  are they all not referred as the Gospel? naturally their answer would be no.  ask them why not? they would say “we don’t believe in them to be the inspired words of God to us they are FORGED, we call them "Apocrypha" unreliable.  

Well. You’ve answered you own question. The same way we Muslims don’t accept or believe in your gospels as the inspired words of God. To us they are FORGED and carry little truth. So Next time you ask us why we don’t accept your bible since the Quran makes mention of “them”, please ask yourself why you don’t accept the “Apocrypha gospels”






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